Chapter

Ninteen

IN

THE

PIT

MORE ALTERS BEGINNING APRIL 8, 1997

TUESDAY, APRIL 8, 8:00 AM @ DR. INDY

DR 1: It takes extreme trauma to create alters. God leads through prayer. Be careful of DESIRE to know whole story - can be henderance.

9:13 AM: KEN age 13

DR2:(to Client in altered state): (client)? who’s there - its safe - talk - no one harm - come talk? - Jesus and Holy Spirit here - commented to love of Jesus and comfort and peace of Holy Spirit - know me? - I’m (Dr.2) - talk - OK?

DR1: good morning - talk? - I’m DR: talk?

ALTER KEN: NO - make me sick - stop talk about things - she not want to hear

DR1: thank you

ALTER KEN: make us angry

DR1: feel angry all time

ALTER KEN: yes

DR1: I friend - need info - important - talk pleasant

ALTER KEN: what

DR1: you - age

ALTER KEN: 13

DR1: boy - name - tell story

ALTER KEN: yes - don’t want talk to you

DR1: school - worst part

ALTER KEN: school awful - too nervous to be in school

DR1: like classes

ALTER KEN: could but can’t

DR1: like teachers - kids - worst memory

ALTER KEN: several - OK - yes - too hard

DR1: name - I like - Ken means manly

ALTER KEN: not like - KEN - not like - I so bad - you have same name

DR1: why say bad - someone attached - evil - who

ALTER KEN: get mad - bad - make bad - evil

DR1: go away? - Jesus? - invite - save

ALTER KEN: bad - yes - too bad

DR1: come to seek - save - etc. - no body too bad - Jesus give peace - can pray

ALTER KEN: change things

DR1: new creation - pray? - pray after me

ALTER KEN: do I have too? - be better

DR1: no - help - Yes - life better

DR1 & ALTER KEN; pray - forgive - Jesus come in - make new - receive Jesus - thank you -Amen

DR1: now new - He came in - He keep word

ALTER KEN: i think so

DR1: Ken - why so angry - story - share

ALTER KEN: NO

DR1: hard story - forgive - pray forgive - be kind - forgive - your choice

ALTER KEN: yes - hate - have too?

DR1: tell God who forgive - pray with me - to God - “I forgive” turn over to God - OK

ALTER KEN: yes - no - yes

DR1: did you pray? - see (client) - how many of you - who lead

ALTER KEN: yes - yes - some - can’t tell

DR1: feel OK - part of (client) - your choice - walk to (client) - hug

ALTER KEN: yes - would feel better? - OK - yes - 9:33 AM: integrate KEN

9:45 AM: ALTER (name & age not given)

ALTER: just want you to leave me alone

DR1: understand - talk a little? - how feel - age

ALTER: never good

DR1: school hard - sorry - let me help - talk

ALTER: everrything - can’t - NO

DR1: tell about me - I’m 50 - etc. - help people feel better - you the leader? - still thee - leaer - others obey you - some one hurt you?

ALTER: yes

DR1: know about Jesus

ALTER: don’t want to know - go away

DR1: like (client)

9:54 AM: (client) back

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lot of anger and hostility - body sensitive - study “Taking Thoughts Captive”

DR1: Obsessive-Compulsive paper - what are false beliefs? - regret of past - fear of future - = false reasoning. II Kings 18:1-ff (5) - Hezekiah - greatest king - son Menassah - most wicked

Mike: (prayer partner): raised in drunk home - Proverbs 22:6 - general principle - not guarantee

DR1: balance truth - responsible for choices - any job worth doing is worth doing poorly

SOVERIGNTY - if I trust the Lord I’d quit complaining - command verses feeling

12:45 AM: ANOTHER ALTER (name & age not given)

(client): glasses off - I don’t want alters today - I feel them making a rackett.

DR1: Talk to who is in charge - who in control - all important need help - each person/part - pull together - who most knowledgable one about sysem - what I don’t know

(client fighting)

DR1: thoughts painful - kurt - know me - talk to you - willing - choose to come out

ALTER: YES

DR1: we talk before? - talk - name - how old - male/female?

ALTER: NO - - OK

DR1: upset you - talk - please - don’t want - hurt? - story?

ALTER: no - - no - YES

DR1: what do for you to help today?

12:50 AM: (client) back

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DR1: seek the fruit of a disciplined life

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APRIL 9, PM --at home (client) went out after dark to get burgers for supper!

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APRIL 10, 8:30-FF: reading all prayers in notebook - (client) bagan having difficulty on 2nd prayer at curses - 8:45 - “by the blood” (pause) - “don’t feel very free” (lays back) - (pray - call for personality of client) - 8:50 - “so sleepy - curled up - covered - sleep” - feel heavy - on prayer P13 of notebook

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SATURDAY, APRIL 12, 6:00 PM - STUDY FEAR - confusion - perfectionism - false belief about doing

7:00 PM: KIT age 13

ALTER: you’re too loud

DR2: sorry

ALTER: what you want to know about (client) for?

DR2: help

ALTER: needs help - always

DR2: can you

ALTER: I always help

DR2: what’s your name

ALTER: why tell

DR2: just asking - up to you

ALTER: might not like

D2: that’s OK - anything to help

ALTER: KIT

DR2: age

KIT: 13

DR2: what do you do to help (client)

KIT: survive

DR2: good - do you have a story or information about what happened?

KIT: bad

DR2: we know - why fear

KIT: she afraid

DR2: what

KIT: what they do

DR2: who

KIT: can’t tell

DR2: who said not to tell

KIT: Jamie did

DR2: OK

KIT: afraid - have to help when afraid

DR2: good - glad - what help (client) - now?

KIT: help what

DR2: be better - stronger

KIT: she so afraid - have help her not be

DR2: OK - I can show you how - want to help? - still there?

KIT: yes - she feel but doesn’t know what she feels

DR2: do you

KIT: I can’t tell - somebody else tell

DR2; know Jesus

KIT: yes

DR2: see Jesus and (client)

KIT: yes

DR2: go to Jesus and (client) - are you there?

KIT: yes

DR2: hug (client)

KIT: yes

DR2: PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

7:10 PM: integrate KIT

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7:38 PM: JASON age 21

DR2: have to help - will you help?

ALTER: will she be safe - when we all leave

DR2: yes

ALTER: nothing happen any more

DR2: be all over

ALTER: here to help her

DR2: yes

ALTER: been afraid so long - always afraid -

DR2: of what

ALTER: everything

DR2: can you name anything - OK - safe - just me

ALTER: (client cross - rub arms - hold stomach)

DR2: tell what’s going on - what you feel

ALTER: leave her alone - don’t bother

DR2: bother who

ALTER: she not know what she feel - it bad - evil - wrong

DR2: yes - you give understanding

ALTER: NO

DR2: why

ALTER: just can’t

DR2: Jamie?

ALTER: what about Jamie

DR2: she tell not to tell?

ALTER: it’s better not to tell

DR2: know Jesus

ALTER: He hasn’t protected her

DR2: may because you’re there

ALTER: I take Jesus place

DR2: He allow you to help

ALTER: Why He not help

DR2: He want you to be one with (client) again - I can help

ALTER: how you help

DR2: help you be one with Janice - see (client)?

ALTER: yes I see her

DR2: go to her

ALTER: why

DR2: to help her

ALTER: how that help her

DR2: to be one - be stronger

ALTER: I’m 21 -she wasn’t strong when 21

DR2: I know - I was there

ALTER: (husband) LET HER GO TO THE DITCH - DIDN’T TAKE CARE - I THERE TOO - I HAD TO TAKE CARE - GET FROM STREET TO HOUSE - SOMETHING BAD COULD HAVE HAPPENED IF NOT FOR ME

DR2: yes

ALTER: why (husband) not take care

DR2: selfish

ALTER: why selfish - she in pain

DR2: He was young also - ignorant

ALTER: that’s true - we young too - did you get hurt when little like she

DR2: no

ALTER: how you know - she not know either

DR2: I don’t remember - I have no deep problem like her

ALTER: she has problem - always has - her whole life - WE take care of her

DR2: what’s your name

ALTER: JASON

DR2: you said you were 21

JASON: YES 21 - what noise

DR2: turning paper

JASON: she pritty when 21 - but so miserable

DR2: sorry husband didn’t know then

JASON: nobody knew - she not know what wrong

DR2: I’m trying to find out so I can help - you help me?

JASON: can’t tell what - CAN’T BE TOLD NOW

DR2: later?

JASON: maybe - I’ll help her now - I know what you’re doing

DR2: go give client a hug

JASON: I hug lots - she not know - I love he - hope she be happy - she deserves to be happy - never been happy

DR2: give hug

JASON: yes

DR2: PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

7:53 PM: integrate JASON

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The forgoing occured when (client) was 21 and her and husband argued - (client) left house and went to ditch - no remember - knowing her fear of dark it must have been a demon that led her out - JASON brought her back

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8:18 - (client) jerked as if chilled - DR2 prayed rebuking demon - commended personality to the love of Jesus and to the comfort and peace of the Holy Spirit. Afterwords (client) said it was a demon.

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8:45 PM: GARY age 11

ken: want to talk

(Client seized by demon in head - body jerked )

DR2: prayed - rebuked demon and commended personality to love of Jesus and peace of H.S. - can you talk - I’m DR2 - come talk with me

(Client’s eyes open and closing)

DR2: tell me your story - who are you

ALTER: GARY age 11 - don’t know story

DR2: thanks - glad you talk - want to help Client?

GARY: (ugly face) MAD

DR2: why

GARY: don’t like them

DR2: understand

GARY: NO you don’t - you do not understand - no one understands

DR2: OK - tell me

GARY: NO WE CAN’T TELL - NOT RELEASED TO TELL YOU

DR2: who said not tell

GARY: GOD WON’T LET US TELL YOU

DR2: OK - I accept that - you help Client now by being one?

GARY: why didn’t God do something

DR2: we will ask Him one day - I not know now

GARY: she hears the SCREAMING, SCREAMING, SCREAMING, SCREAMING

DR2: I’ll pray about it - PRAY

GARY: she want to know

DR2: I know

GARY: God didn’t take care of her so He should let her know

DR2: will you be one with Client?

GARY: she wont like my name - she not want a GARY

DR2: it be OK

GARY: we not all like him - not all GARY’s like that - I’m good Gary I help her

DR2: see Jesus

GARY: yes I do

DR2: give your anger to Jesus

GARY: why

DR2: He take it away - give peace

GARY: peace -OH peace - she needs peace

DR2: pray with to Jesus?

GARY: I’ll listen

DR2: OK - PRAY - take anger - give peace -- go to (client)?

GARY: yes

DR2: go to (client) - give hug

GARY: yes

DR2: PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

9:00 PM: integrate GARY

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DR2: who else is here - want to talk - help

(client jerk again - I PRAY - rebuke demon spirit)

(TIME?): SUE age 19

DR2: want to talk - tell story - help (client)?

ALTER: don’t you know how to talk properly?

DR2: I know -

ALTER: why don’t you - what I do with Boy

DR2: yes - I

ALTER: good? is it - I’m surrounded by boys - you thought no more girls

DR2: didn’t know

ALTER: right - don’t - none knew - SO MANY OF US - always has been - have to stay and do she weak - “stop - leave me alone you all wish - go along you’re silly way - I talk now it probably come out - can’t keep hid - it been long time - I tell - “Oh stop - leave me alone - if I want I will - it’s confusing -

DR2: still here

ALTER: still here - what you want - I tell

DR2: you begin - I listen

ALTER: he talk

DR2: him who

ALTER: if her tell her to come - imagine what its like for (client) when we all talk - jibberish

DR2: your name

ALTER: why tell

DR2: I ask - please

ALTER: not very pritty - but I am plane oh SUE, SUE, SUE - uh

DR2: hello - how old

SUE: nosey arn’t you

DR2: yes

SUE: she like you

DR2: (client)

SUE: yes

DR2: yes

SUE: are you sure - may be she doesn’t - you just think

DR2: we have our moments

SUE: moments of what

DR2: misunderstanding - know GARY - not her cousin

SUE: yes I know him - know them all

DR2: who is all

SUE: all cousins

DR2: name them

SUE: all - why - not believe

DR2: I want to know

SUE: what

DR2: who involved

SUE: in what

DR2: (client) problem

SUE: can’t tell

DR2: OK

SUE: “I know, I know, I NOT tell - leave me alone - let go of me”

DR2: SUE - who there

SUE: I not say - don’t want me to talk - haven’t been out in long time - I want to be out

DR2: OK - know Jesus

SUE: try rush me away - don’t want to go talk - be out - I know - see Jesus and Client - be gone

DR2: OK you got me

SUE: exasperating - I’m very pritty - I’m the self righteous Client - she was very self righteous - it was me not her - she not know how to be anything

DR2: OK

SUE: did I tell you my age

DR2: nope

SUE: how old you think I am -

DR2: a sassy 8

SUE: not a child - don’t want to be child

DR2: so how old

SUE: nothing is what its cracked up to be - a very beautiful 19 - (client) like to be again - but she can’t - she old now - she wasn’t happy then - she should be in here that should have happened - trade places - I be happy - young and beautiful - refuse to get older

DR2: so what do you do for (client)

SUE: don’t think I want to talk any more

DR2: OK - will you go to (client)

SUE: OH she dope - may be if I go then she be pritty again

DR2: could be

SUE: do you like her

DR2: did and do

SUE: better not lie - GOD WATCH - she old - fat - ugly - I pritty all these years

DR2: choice

SUE: what you mean

DR2: you choice

SUE: what she let

DR2: flesh not mind

SUE: she no choose - she couldn’t - hard for her - school hard - don’t see point to her being born

DR2: God knows her purpose - you help

SUE: I had purpose - keep her sain

DR2: why you need to be one - more constant - your stability

SUE: guys not think I stable - I fun do things - she to

DR2: you can help

SUE: she boring

DR2: help her out - give her yourself

SUE: I don’t know - been help

DR2: need to be one

SUE: I her selfrighteous - everything about me good - tired of being here - ugly name - her name pritty name - stuck

DR2: I can give you name

SUE: who

DR2: (client)

SUE: have her name

DR2: If you be one you will

SUE: pritty name - I like both - all pritty - just like she was - too bad - go back - may be she have my youth

DR2: yes

SUE: OK - what do

DR2: go to (client) give hug - there?

SUE: mmm

DR2: PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

9:25 PM: integrate SUE

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MONDAY, APRIL 14, 8:20 PM

doing work book: immediate demonic attack - PRAYED

(client): difficulty reading - chilled

8:40 PM: JAMES age 14

DR2: my name is (DR2) will you talk with me - does it upset you what we are doing - does it upset you what we are doing here - I’m going to pray -

(client): (heavy breathing)

DR2: will you come talk with me - it’s OK to - I’d be glad to listen -

ALTER: what makes you think I have anything to say

DR2: find out when you talk - (client) and I need your help -

ALTER: I wish I could tell you what happened

DR2: do you know anything to tell

ALTER: i can’t tell

DR2: but do you know - not asking you to tell - do you know

ALTER: I know and I don’t know -

DR2: OK - will you give me your name

ALTER: ITS JAMES

DR2: how old are you James

JAMES: 14

DR2: do you have a particular function as part of (client)

JAMES: I’m strong

DR2: well that’s something (client) needs is strength

JAMES: I hold her up

DR2: (client) needs that - she needs your strength to help hold her up all the time

JAMES: she’s unhappy

DR2: I know

JAMES: the demons won’t leave her alone

DR2: I know that too

JAMES: we have to watch her - we have to take care of her BECAUSE HE’S TRYING TO GET HER TO KILL HERSELF -

DR2: know that too -

JAMES: SHE’S GOING TO KILL HERSELF IF YOU DON’T WATCH HER - (?) - take care of her to help her - she’s about to give up

DR2: she needs you to give her your strength

JAMES: well Ialways have

DR2: need to give it to her all the time - would you like to do that -

JAMES: YAH

DR2: do you see (client)

JAMES: yah

DR2: walk over to Client - put your arms around her and tell her you’re going to give her your strength -

JAMES: MMMMMM

DR2: PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

8:45 PM: integrate JAMES

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continuing in study with another attack - (client) jerk - hissing anger - evil eyes -PRAYED

9:08 PM: JAKE age 16

more demonic attacks followed by an alter

DR2: someone want to talk - I need your help with (client) - will you come talk with me - it would be helpful if you would come talk -

ALTER: I wish I could but I can’t

DR2: yes you can - it’s safe to talk here - no one here but me -

ALTER: no , can’t tell

DR2: who says you can’t tell

ALTER: GOD WON’T LET US TELL -NOT RIGHT NOW

DR2: not right now - OK I accept that - who are you

ALTER: JAKE

DR2: Jake- how old are you Jake

JAKE: 16

DR2: in what way do you help (client) cope with her situation

JAKE: I don’t help her good enough - I should help her now -

DR2: OK - can I help you do that

JAKE: she hears the SCREAMING - SCREAMING - SCREAMING all the time - I wish they wouldn’t make her scream

DR2: yes - I do too

JAKE: is she going to be alright

DR2: God will make it alright when He gets all of you back together - are there many others -

JAKE: I don’t know how many there are of us

DR2: you don’t know

JAKE: NO

DR2: do you know Jesus

JAKE: yes

DR2: Jesus would like you to be one with (client) - will you let me help -

JAKE: (client) is tired -

DR2: yes I know - she needs you to help -

JAKE: I’ve always tried to help her -

DR2: she needs your help with her all the time

JAKE: yes, that’s what I try to do her whole life

DR2: I can help you do that - will you let me help you do that

JAKE: yes

DR2: see (client)

JAKE: yes

DR2: go to her and give her a hug - there?

JAKE: yes

DR2: PRAYER OFINTEGRATION

9:12 PM: integrate JAKE

(client): no body has any idea how tiring this is -

DR2: we started at 8:20 and at 8:40 one alter came out -

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TUESDAY, APRIL 15, 1997, 7:45 AM

DR2: is anyone there or do you just have your eyes closed? -

7:45 AM: JOELLA, age 16

DR2: anyone there want to talk? - PRAYER of love and peace - rebuke any demonic activity in Name and Blood of Jesus - the demons have been rebuked in the name of Jesus and the power of His blood and you are commended to the love of Jesus and the peace and comfort of the Holy Spirit - would you like to come talk with me - it’s safe to talk here

ALTER: I want to talk but they won’t let me

DR2: the others

ALTER: yes

DR2: how many

ALTER: I said I want to talk

DR2: how many others are there

ALTER: three of us here

DR2: well all of you are commended to the love and comfort of the Holy Spirit and it’s safe the love of Christ is here

ALTER: I said I wanted to talk and she said no

DR2: (client)?

ALTER: YES

DR2: well you’re out now so if God gives you permission to speak you may speak

ALTER: they won’t let me talk

DR2: what’s your name

ALTER: JOELLA

DR2: Joella

JOELLA: yes

DR2: well, Joella, how old are you

JOELLA: 12?

DR2: do you know JAKE

JOELLA: not sure

DR2: the others quiet now?

JOELLA: yes - (?)

DR2: can you talk - God give you permission

JOELLA: no

DR2: OK - what do you know of (client) and her situation

JOELLA: I don’t know

DR2: don’t know - what kind of person are you

JOELLA: I’m a good person

DR2: how do you feel about (client)

JOELLA: what are you doing?

DR2: the fan came on I turned it back off - so we can talk without noise -

JOELLA: (client) is OK

but she’s no fun to be around -

DR2: I suppose that’s true right now

JOELLA: always been true

DR2: trying to make her better

JOELLA: well she needs to be

DR2: actually it’s your business then

JOELLA: that’s true -

DR2: would you like to give it to her - still there

JOELLA: she would have liked to gone to college - but she couldn’t

DR2: she would like to go where

JOELLA: gone to college - she couldn’t do anything she wanted to do- never -

DR2: are you there

JOELLA: you know she doesn’t think her life is worth any thing

DR2: true, she does think that

JOELLA: I don’t know why she’s lived this long - she wanted to die a long time ago

DR2: well she hasn’t - you guys have helped to keep her straight I guess

JOELLA: she wouldn’t have lived without us

DR2: I know that

JOELLA: and you would have been very sad

DR2: quite, quite, sad

JOELLA: you ought to you know

DR2: yes, but I know her

JOELLA: I don’t think she could live without you

DR2: well, we’re trying to hang in there

JOELLA: you’re not ever going to leave her are you

DR2: no way am I going to leave her - would you like to join (client) - become one

JOELLA: is that the way you plan to take care of us

DR2: I believe so - she will have your goodness -

JOELLA: yes i am better then they say I am

DR2: who’s the other person

JOELLA: yes

DR2: they don’t care about you

JOELLA; mmm, they do - hard to understand everybody

DR2: yes (client) is hard to understand sometimes - do you know Jesus

JOELLA: you ....(?)....... sometimes

DR2: (client) needs to understand that - she gets aggrivated with people too

JOELLA: yea, people are mean - mean to her

DR2: (?)

DR2: you see (client)

JOELLA: yes

DR2: do you see Jesus

JOELLA: yes

DR2: well why don’t you and Jesus walk over to (client)

JOELLA: HE’S already there

DR2: well good - walk over and give (client) a big hug - tell her you want to give her your goodness - there -

JOELLA: alright

DR2: (PRAYER OF INTEGRATION FOR JOELLA)

8:22 AM: integrate JOELLA

TUESDAY, 8:00 AM : JEROME - 14

DR2: asked if someone wants to talk - (no answer - prayed) - no one here but me it is alright if you talk -

ALTER: can’t say anything

DR2: why not

ALTER; not at liberty to talk - so there’s nothing to say

DR2: and your name

ALTER: JEROME

DR2: JEROME, how old are your Jerome

JEROME: 14

DR2: lot of you teenagers around

JEROME: (client)’s teenage years were awful

DR2: I guess so

JEROME: terrable to endure it, had to have a lot of help -things were happening- had to help her

DR2: can you tell me what those things were

JEROME: no

DR2: who was there

JEROME: no - can’t tell you anything

DR2: what kind of person are you

JEROME: I’m a good person -what do you mean

DR2: what are your characteristics - are you strong - are you (?)

JEROME: I’m strong

DR2: well, (client) needs your strength -any others to give her

JEROME: all I know is she needs help

DR2: will you help her

JEROME: yea - do you hear that

DR2: n- -tell me about it

JEROME; I don’t know what it is

DR2: (pray for hidden things to come to light)

DR2: see any better

JEROME: there’s white all over - like a cloud -

DR2: know how old (client) was at this time you’re talking about

JEROME: no - it’s coming up like SMOKE - SOMEBODY SMOKING A CIGARETTE

(breath with a start)

DR2: recognise who

JEROME: no, but they BURNED HER WITH A CIGARETTE - she’s little

DR2: do you feel the pain

JEROME: mmmm - yea

DR2: I’ll ask Jesus to take the pain - (pray for healing of pain)

(client jerk back slightly - legs up -

DR2: can you tell me what’s happening

JEROME: it’s bad (client jerk back again in chair - full )

DR2: prayer for God’s control

DR2: tell me what’s going on - can you hear me - are you there - Jerome? JEROME?

JEROME: YEA

DR2: are you still there

JEROME: yea

DR2: do you see what’s happening - can you see the memory - are you ready for (client) - (client) needs your presence please

JEROME: do you see it

DR2: what

JEROME: a hand - it’s coming around her body - the arm is squeezing her - picking her up - she’s SCREAMING - she’s kicking - it’s carrying her

DR2: can you describe it

JEROME: it’s a monster like thing - bid - ugly -

DR2: describe how it’s dressed

JEROME: has a skirt draping

DR2: what color is it

JEROME: green - no top on - monster looking thing -

DR2: what room are they in

JEROME: bed room

DR2: where is (client)

JEROME: they’re on the BED

(client leg motions - 8:17)

DR2: what’s going on now

JEROME: he’s standing over her - BIG - hurt her

(client scratching)

DR2: do you itch

JEROME: yes

DR2: (prayed for itching to stop)

(client - hands clasp sleeves in grip )

Dr2: you ready to go to (client)

JEROME: yes

DR2: go to her

JEROME: yes

DR2: go to (client), wrap your arms aroung her

DR2: (PRAYER OF INTEGRATION FOR JEROME)

8:22 PM: INTEGRATON OF JEROME

TUESDAY, APRIL 15 1997

DR.2:altered state : GEORGE age 15

8:55 AM: took walk in woods to house at end of trail: (mentally)

DR.2: see table (in kitchen), see anyone at the table (as before)

Client: yes, they are there yet they’re not, some there , some just dead

DR.2: look around room , anything else

Client: no

DR.2: let’s go into the kitchen, describe it

Client: table in the middle, another little table, cabinates, same, small,

DR.2: any one there besides Jesus and the angle

Client: a man, looks like my daddy

DR.2: is he doing anything

Client: I’m on the table, he’s undressing me

DR.2: how old do you think you are

Client: little, 4, ( leg motions as before) (client jerked back in chair)

DR.2: we’re safe with Jesus and His holy angel, it’s only memory, what’s going on now, what do you see?

Client: he’s touching me, hand on me, my spirit is up above

DR.2: are you ready to leave the house now

Client: yes

DR.2: Jesus, hide the memory, take [client] by the hand and lead her out of the kitchen, through the dining room, back to the living room, we’re at the front door now,

ALTER: How can I leave her there?

DR.2: who are you

ALTER: why don’t you do something - how could he do that to her

Dr.2: it’s memory, it’s in the past -

ALTER: he’s there, on the table, he’s there

DR.2: it’s memory, it happened in the past, it’s not happening now, it happened to [client] as a child, [client] is an adult now, walk in the living room,

ALTER: I don’t like it, he shouldn’t do that

DR.2: where are you right now

ALTER: living room

DR.2: ready to go out now, at the front door

ALTER: yea - I want to kill him - he shouldn’t be hurting [client] like that

DR.2: that’s true

ALTER: well make him stop

DR.2: it’s memory, it happened a long time ago, it’s not happening now, - look for adult [client]

see Jesus -

ALTER: why doesn’t He stop him

DR.2; it’s memory, it’s not happening now, walk over to Jesus - let’s talk with Jesus -do you have a name

ALTER: GEORGE

DR.2: Jesus, I pray for GEORGE, give him the understanding that you would have him to have, take away his hurt and pain, take away his desire for revenge, and make him whole, - GEORGE, will you take Jesus?

GEORGE: He should have helped her

DR.2: we have to leave that up to Him, can’t be telling Him what to do,

GEORGE: He loves [client]

DR.2: yes, and He wants you to be one with [client] now - and heal the pain in your past - will you take Jesus -

GEORGE: YES

DR.2: will you pray with me then

GEORGE: OK

DR.2:”Jesus --(pray out loud or silently) - help me George to understand - I ask your forgiveness for my desire for revenge and I accept you now and ask you to help me help [client] - please answer my prayer” - Did you repeat the prayer -

GEORGE: YEA

DR.2: now walk with Jesus over to adult [client]

GEORGE: YEA

DR.2: one more question, George, how old are you

GEORGE; 15

DR.2: alright, put your arms around [client], I’m going to pray:

Father, in the name of Jesus our Saviour who is present, I pray that you will integrate GEORGE with [client] body, mind, soul, and spirit, make it full and complete, in the name of our Saviour we pray, Amen.

9:12 AM: integrate GEORGE

DR.2: [ to client ]

Client: yes

DR.2: you in the living room?

Client: yes

DR.2: walk out the front door and close the door behind you, walk down the stairs and back down the trail through the woods, back out of the woods and back home

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Client: I’m copying this so you can hear my voice ( voice is lower than normal, raspy, and slow in speach ) while I’m praying the daily commetment prayer. (reading prayer from the book Bringing Every Thought Captive.) [taped for further use] [client resisted the demon in prayer claiming the name and blood of Jesus ]

Client [after the above] am I coming in OK I just relistened to some of that and I’m thinking its kinda like a helium balloon when sucking in on it and you can’t talk good cause I have this notebook in my lap the whole time and this paint smell or whatever it is is bothering me but on the other hand yesterday I read from it a long time when it bothered me and then I talked on the telephone and I seemed to be doing OK then. I’m going to read some more of the prayer now to see what happens. I think this is where I left off. [ put on tape for further use ]

(after finishing the prayer)

Client: I have some pain left in my diaphram where I was forcing myself to talk and it’s still hurting but I’m able to talk again now. I don’t know, I feel a scratchiness in my throat so I don’t know if it’s allergic reaction to this or satan.

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SUNDAY, APRIL 20, 1997,

3:55 PM: TONY age 25

DR.2: you say I’m too loud, I’m sorry. Who are you?

ALTER: TONY

DR.2: can you tell me if there was a demon present?

TONY: yes

DR.2: thank you. does the mention of the name of the Lord and the blessing bother you?

TONY: not me

DR.2: the demon didn’t like it. We’ll have to be careful about that won’t we

TONY: (client) is frustrated

DR.2: yes ,we know

TONY: (client) wants to have God’s blessing

DR.2: that’s good.

TONY: but (client) doesn’t know how. I try to help her all I can, but it’s been hard and too much sadness

DR.2: well, that’s why we’re trying to bring it all together and provide healing so (client) can get on with life

TONY: DEMONS are always here, they always harass, they always bother (client), been bothering (client) since (client) was little

DR.2: you know why they came to start with

TONY: THE WITCH DOCTOR

DR.2: the one that removed the wart?

TONY: yes - (client) was just little then - (client) didn’t know what was happening - (client) doesn’t remember all of that one either -

DR.2: do you

TONY: some , but someday maybe (client) will know

DR.2: then you can’t tell

TONY: no - our hands are tied - we can’t tell you anything right now

DR.2: who tied your hands -

TONY: it’s a figure of speech - God did

DR.2: that’s what I thought, i just wanted to be sure - how old are you TONY

TONY: 25

DR.2: well, we all think that you and the others have finished your purpose - and would like to make you one with (client)

TONY: but (client) is not doing well

DR.2: well, if we can get all of you to join in everybody can work together with (client) then (client) should be better - what you have you will give to her - that’s one reason (client) is not feeling too well because there are so many pieces and everyone is not working together - they want too but its difficult because they are all scattered

TONY: yes

DR.2: do you know Jesus

TONY: there are not so many of us now - there were so many and we upset (client) cause we talked so much - so much would be going on - and the DEMONS always coming - and always having to fight

DR.2: do you know Jesus

TONY: yea, He doesn’t like the demons being here

DR.2; that’s true - He has to work on getting rid of them - we’ll have to see what we can do about that - you see (client)

TONY: yea, I always see (client)

DR.2: go to (client)and give a big hug

TONY: that’s the way (client) needs me

DR.2: that’s right, (client) needs all your love and attention and all your strengths and abilities, all your wisdom and understanding

TONY: well, I’ve always helped (client)

DR.2: i would like for your to join (client) with the others now

TONY: is that what we’re all going to do

DR.2: yes, that is what we want to do

TONY: are you sure it’s the right thing to do

DR.2: yes, I’m sure - God let you be created to help (client) all through these years - He’s shown us to let us know that you’re there - and now wants you all to be one with (client) and that all will be one with Him, and for (client) to be a witness for Jesus and help others who have the same kind of problems

TONY: no one knows all the problems (client) has had

DR.2: when God’s ready He’ll let her know

TONY: you think He’s going to tell (client)

DR.2: I think he will thell (client) when you all get together - do you know how many others there are

TONY: no, now sure, there are a few

DR.2: you with (client) now

TONY: yea

DR.2: well, give (client) a hug and I’m going to pray:

Father, In the name of Jesus, I pray for TONY that you will integrate him with (client), body, mind, soul, and spirit, make it full and complete, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and thank you in Jesus Name, AMEN

4:04 PM: integrate TONY

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DR.2: are you back? - well, is there anybody else there that wants to come out and talk? I just talked with TONY - anybody else there?- you ready to talk -

ALTER: you’re not a very patient person are you?

DR.2: i suppose not

ALTER: what are you doing (client has eyes shut)

DR.2: drinking coffee - what’s your name

ALTER: why should I tell you

DR.2: because I asked

ALTER: why do you want to know

DR.2: know who I’m talking too - the others tell me thier names so I know who I’m talking too

ALTER: it’s PETE

4:05 PM: PETE age ?

DR.2: PETE thank you - you know anything about the WITCH DOCTOR?

PETE: no - he used hocus-pocus magic -but he did more than they know

(client leg motion - restless - scoot down in chair)

DR.2: what’s happening PETE? -what memory is going on - it’s just memory PETE, it’s not happening now, you are commended to the comfort and peace of the Holy Ghost - if there are any demons present you are rebuked in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and commanded by the blood of Jesus Christ to go where He sends you - what’s happening PETE?

PETE: (client) feeling what they did to (client)

DR.2: the pain is not real - it happened then, but now it’s just memory -- see anything-

PETE: I can’t say - SOMEBODY WILL TELL YOU

DR.2: I commend you to the love of Jesus Christ and to the comfort and peace of the Holy Ghost to calm the innerman - do you know Jesus PETE?

PETE: yea, He let this happen to (client) - people are so stupid -

DR.2: sometimes we don’t understand - but that’s why Jesus let you be created to help (client) through these years of struggle, and now we need you to be in union with (client)so that (client) is a whole person

PETE: (client) is so weak

DR.2: your strength will help (client) strength

PETE: it’s all so hard -but (client) couldn’t survive without us

DR.2: yes, and your mission has been accomplished

PETE: how’s (client) going to survive now

DR.2: that’s what I’m here for and that’s what the Holy Spirit wants to do so (client) can come to the place where (client) can be more in control of things - you want to help (client)

PETE: (client) want’s (person) to know

DR.2: yes, much more

PETE: (?)

(TAPE CLICKED OFF -END OF TAPE)

PETE: I want (client) to be alright

DR.2: me too - see (client) - go to (client) and give (client) a hug

PETE: be the end of me?

DR.2: be one with (client) -PRAYER OF INTEGRATION

4:17 PM: integrate PETE

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SUNDAY, APRIL 20, 97 - 4:34 PM

CLIENT: read daily prayer out of book Bringing Every Thought Captive

(very shortly into reading client’s voice starts to be raspy and breathing difficult, client is then attacked by demon influence and jerked back in chair, threw book, and begins hissing and pulling on chair arms)

DR.2.: spirit in the name and blood of Jesus you are commanded to leave he body of (client) in the name and blood of Jesus Christ and to go now where Jesus Christ sends you, I command you in the name of Jesus Christ and my testimony of faith in Him as my Savior, and by the blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses from all sin, by the blood of Jesus Christ all of you present are commanded to leave in the name of Jesus so be it , amen.

pause

DR.2: Father I pray for the peace and comfort of the Holy Ghost for the body, mind, soul, and spirit from this demonic attack, we claim the love of Christ and ask for your help now in the name of Jesus, amen.

DR.2: is someone there who would like to talk; you are commended to the love of Jesus and comfort and peace of the Holy Spirit; the love of Jesus is hear

4:30 PM: TRAY age 25

Demon in voice of client: “I’ll take you to hell, I’ll take you to hell with me, you will go to hell, I will take you to hell now”

DR.2: all demonic will cease, you cannot, I am saved by the blood of the crucified one Jesus the Son of God

Demon begins to make loud vocal sounds to drowned DR out: “oooooooo”

DR.2: the personality of Client is commended to the love of Jesus and the comfort and peace of the Holy Ghost. If any one is there who would like to talk, I would like to listen.

ALTER: do you have any idea what you are dealing with? do you know how strong they are?

DR.2: they seem to be very potent, but they are not stronger than the blood of Jesus Christ and my testimony in that blood. They cannot harm me unless Jesus says so, and they cannot touch my soul, it is safe, so is (client).

ALTER: they can drive a person insane

DR2: Oh, yes

ALTER; if it wasn’t for us that is where (client) would be, insane. I have to pick (client) up again. I have to pick (client) up so many times. when (client)’s down I have to pick (client) up

DR.2: because (client) doesn’t have your strength., (client) needs your strength.

ALTER: (client) always down, I have to pick (client) up

DR.2: if (client) had your strength maybe (client) would stay up more

ALTER: (client) so weak

DR.2: yes (client) is

ALTER: i don’t know what would have happened to (client) if it hadn’t been for me

DR.2: who are you

ALTER: TRAY

DR2: how old are you TRAY

TRAY: 25

DR.2: Tray, do you know the whole story/

TRAY: yes, I do

DR.2: been there from the beginning

TRAY: yes I have

DR.2: then you know all about the witch doctor

TRAY: yes, I do

DR.2: (names of persons [ddg])

TRAY: yes, I do, (name-g) didn’t have to do with (client) just (other family member), but I can’t tell you any more.

DR.2: do you know Jesus

TRAY: YES! thought He was supposed to help (client)

DR.2: He let you help

TRAY: that why I’m here

DR.2: yes, God wants you and (client) to be of one mind and body

TRAY: i don’t know about that, I told you I have to keep picking (client) up. I’m always having to keep picking (client) up.

DR2: you have that strength, (client) does not. If you will be one with (client) then (client) would have your strength

TRAY: (client) be able to pick up self then

DR2: that’s the idea

TRAY: I don’t know, lot of time here

DR2; true, time for (client) - needs all your strength all the time

TRAY: (client) really messed up

DR2: deafinitely

TRAY: what ever you want

DR2: see (client)

TRAY: yes

DR2: walk over and give (client) a hug

TRAY: ok

DR2: Father, in the name of Jesus, I pray that you will integrate TRAY with (client), full and complete, body, mind, soul, and spirit, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, I thank you in Jesus name, Amen.

4:47 PM: integrate TRAY

(client) YOU see why I was hesitant to do this in DR1’s office, to go through this in front of another man. It’s one thing to get angry, and clear his table and break everything , It’s another one to sound stupid

5:17 PM Client try prayer again

I feel better this time than before, I feel stronger, I don’t feel weak. When I started before I felt in a weakened state.

“Daily Commitment Prayer”

“Father I come to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I claim the bloooooood (word was drawn out and wobbly) of the Lord Jesus as my protection during this time of prayer. I address only the true and living God. (space of silence)

DR2: No fear in love. perfect love cast out fear. Plead the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.

Client having problems breathing

“Refuse any involvment of Satan in my prayer. In the Name of Jesus Christ I command Satan to leave my presence with all his wicked spirits (space of silence)

DR2:to demons: you are commanded in the Name of Jesus Christ to leave the body of (client) and go where the Lord Jesus Christ sends you. You will leave the temple of the Holy Spirit Client’s body and will go now where Jesus Christ sends them. In the Name of the Lord Jesus and the blood shed, and the faith of our testimony in His name. Amen.

Client: I’m putting the blood of the Lord Jesus between us. I ask that you help me during this time of prayer. I thank you that the weapons of my warfare are not carnel, human, or fleshly, but are mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds, imaginations, and every high thing that exhalts itself against the knowledge and experience of God and brings every thought into obedience to Christ. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I resist and cancel every plan, I smash and break every stronghold that has been formed against me in my priesthood. I bind Satans hold in this area and resist his hold upon my free spirit. I submit my priesthood to you dear Lord. (hard breathing and pausing) I take authority over all wicked spirits in and aroung the house that have been assigned to hinder me in my priesthood today. I bind you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I command all wicked spirits in the house to leave and I bind you outside the house. I submit those bonds to you heavenly Father. I resist and cancel every plan ,I smash and break every stronghold (voice getting raspy) against me for this day. I bind and destroy all the enemies work against my mind, my emotions, my will, my body, my (voice more raspy), my spirit, and against the work of the Holy Spirit in my life. I resist all counterfits hinderances to my ministry and my calling, my spiritual gifts, my prayer, my bond in Christ. I thank and praise you for my salvation and deliverance so rich and free

DR2: Amen, Father, we need your power and presence. Demon spirits of the devil, by the blood of Jesus Christ, in His holy name, you are once more commanded to leave the temple of the Holy Spirit, Client’s body, you will leave and you will go now where Christ sends you and you will never again return to harass the body of client, by the name and by the blood of Jesus Christ, by the faith of our testimony in that blood and in that Name of our Savior Jesus Christ. so be it now and forevermor Amen.

Client is commended to the love of Jesus Christ and the peace and comfort of the Holy Ghost.

(space of silence)

Client is commended to the love of Jesus Christ and the peace and comfort of the Holy Ghost. The demons have been commanded to leave. If you would like to speak I will listen

(long silence)

DR2: (addressing the alter system) This is (me), it is safe to come and talk

5:25 PM: GENE age 47: Why don’t you just leave her alone. Don’t you see what you are doing to her?

DR2: trying to bring wholeness and healing. , be rid of the demons.

Gene: doesn’t seem that anything is better for her now than before

DR2: we are making progress. We could use your help

Gene: How do you figure that?

DR2: we’ve gotten rid of some of the demons

Gene: don’t you knowho many there are? you could go everyday on and on and on

DR2: there will come a point

Gene: They are always here, they are always coming

DR2: we have to put a stop to it

Gene: you really think you’re going to stop them?

DR2: one way to stop them is to get all of you to become one with client. exspell the demons and get you together with client. eventually when no more alters and there’s just one client then the door will be shut.

Gene: the door for what, the demons

DR2: the door for the demons will be shut. as long as there are some of you around that have a weak spirit then that leaves the door for the demons. Its not your fault, that’s just the way it happens.

Gene: we’re the strong ones

DR2: you have her spirit, part of her personality. It just gives a door for the demons. we found a demon, we exspelled the demon giving you freedom to speak

Gene: I don’t think you better leave her alone tonight

DR2: I already thought about that

Gene: why , you afraid of the demons?

DR2: they could be intemidating, but they are more likely to come around if I’m not here.

Gene: she’s by herself a lot

DR2: I know

Gene: she doesn’t like it either

5:42 PM: integrate GENE

5:57 PM: PRIMARY ALTER NO NAME

6:10 PM: tape clicked off, Janice startled back

6:24 PM: CALL BACK PRIMARY ALTER

6:30 PM: ALTER: “God wants me here for now”

MONDAY, APRIL 21, 1997

10:15 PM: DON age 19

10:23 PM: integrate DON

10:24 PM: BONNIE age 5

10:30 PM: integrate BONNIE

TUESDAY, 22 APRIL 1997, 11:20 AM

11:06 AM: BOBBY age 7

11:15 AM: integrate BOBBY

11:20 AM: BART age 12

11:29 AM: integrate BAR----------

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SATURDAY, 11:23 PM, MAY 3, 1997

Client and DR2 had just laid down to sleep - we had been talking about demonic and child abuse movies when she went into an altered state:

ALTER: don’t like scary things - shouldn’t scare us

DR2: who

ALTER: man - not like his looks - not want him to touch me

DR2: who

ALTER: big man in BLACK

DR2: he’s not here now

ALTER: scared of him - make him go away

DR2: not here any more

ALTER: he hurt me if he finds me - he’s here

DR2: where

ALTER: he’ll find me - help me kill him

DR2: where is he

ALTER: that room behind the curtain

DR2: his house

ALTER: yes

DR2: how old are you

ALTER: 4 - take me away

DR2: do you know Jesus

ALTER: no

DR2: OK - let’s find Jesus - (tell about Jesus) - say the name Jesus

ALTER: Jesus

DR2: see light

ALTER: I under the table - have to come out

DR2: I’ll pray for Jesus to give light - what’s your name

ALTER: JANIE

DR2: (pray for Jesus to come and give light under table)

JANIE: I see the light - I see Jesus

DR2: take Jesus by the hand - walk to the door - out the door - down the sidewalk and out into a meadow -beautiful - green - sunny - safe - want Jesus to take you to (client)

JANIE: yes

DR2: see (client)

JANIE: yes

DR2: take (client) by the other hand - now its you, Jesus, and (client)

11:45 PM DR2: (PRAYER OF INTEGRATION FOR JANIE)

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